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  Anti-JW Cult: Why did you enslave yourself to new doctrines without fully investigating their validity first?

  by Change Name in

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  i saw this on yahoo answers and wondered about your reaction to it.. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=asztevcfhe4rumq8w.94glxq1kix;_ylv=3?qid=20130226115907aalqjsp.

  here are some of your deceptive doctrines:.

  russell was a freemason & pyramidologist.

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  1. Free mason?, there is no hard evidence to say he was. The pyramid was not erected as a directory for those buried in the lot, it is a monument to the laodecian messager, Russell.

  2. the WT did join the UN as an NGO, the paper work clearly shows they knew the rules, they were outed and quit

  3. Can't comment myself, never looked at it. Dont care.

  4 They are false prophets as far as my own research shows.

  5. child abuse and the WT? As true as it is in the catholic church, and as hidden. I have seen the policy of protection in action.

  Personally, not one of these things bothers me true or false. There are so many other things that just add up to amountain of proof that the WT, the JWs are among the most evil groups on the planet. I am extremely interested in truth. MY own journey was one of discovery of the true and the not true stories in Ex JW land. It took me a year, how long will it take you?

  If you keep cut and pasting the Watchtower society's answers you will never learn anything Change Name

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  Question from a dummy (but very helpful if anyone can tell me): Do the members of the GB or anyone that serves get paid?

  by FingersCrossed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the jw-land, are there any of the gb, elders, or whatever posts/people get paid for doing the "good work"?

  do they receive any monetary income (in term of salary/allowance/whatever as long as it is $$$) which come from donation aka from the congregation?.

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  All bethelites get an 'allowance', as do travelling sales reps

  as for the GB, on paper they may well get the same allowance as the floor sweeper but the difference is in the package...

  the apartment, the travel, the food, golden handshakes...

  i am sure those up to date would know the amounts of $$$

  Oz
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  Anyone here been Dfd for 'apostacy'?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanna know.

  i'm doing the fade but i reckon my big mouth could get me dfd.

  i know plenty who've been dfd for fornication/adultery, but never met one dfd for speaking the truth.

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  ask cantleave...he and nugget have a great story.

  I would think those DF for apostasy may be in the minority, but they are by far the best at helping the rest of us wake up

  oz
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  I have a dumb question re: publishing corp...

  by new22day in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many of you refer to wts as a rich publishing corp. since the mags they pass out are free i don't understand how they make money from them?

  sorry for the dumb question - curious newbie....

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  Dont forget there were the glory days for the Wt before they went 'free'.

  but even since then, anything they print goes instant 7 million seller.

  the glory days of Knorrs business building and franz's frenzy paid for for most of what they bought or built in property and no doubt the large investments that they have as well.

  Oz
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  Is it the GB's plan to NOT explain the nu FDS lite?

  by outsmartthesystem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps i am overthinking this.......but i may have come to the conclusion that the gb's refusal to address and explain in detail all of the changes mentioned at the 2012 annual meeting is in and of itself.....their final explanation.

  from what i have gathered by speaking discreetly with those that are still "in" but on the fringe.......the information given at the 2012 meeting meant practically nothing to most jws.

  in fact.....most are still completely unaware of the changes.

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  whether they announce it or not,

  all the animals will look at the barn wall, scratch their heads and say " i'm sure it said something different yesterday...musta not read it right I guess, coz there is it in writin' n all"...

  Oz
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  CO want to talk to me

  by goodsoul in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  co want to talk to me.

  first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.

  also, it's my first topic.

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  it has become more and more evident to me that it really is a cult you know.

  one does not have to plan and make strategy to leave a bonafide religion.

  i wish you well, you have already tipped their hand, they know. raising 1914, 1919, generation etc is an automatic red flag, i would think you should have known that as an elder though. You dont have to be causght talking to anyone. THOUGHT CRIME is enough.

  the CO will tell them what to do.

  Oz
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  Interesting Read About a JW Missionary in China

  by Wolfy in

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  2. friends

  http://www.believermag.com/issues/201302/?read=article_scorah.

  i found it a very interesting read.

  the article was linked on one of my fav websites digg.

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  that was a very good read

  oz
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  To the many generous intellects on this forum

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  2. friends

  you so smart.. me dumb.. me want to be like you.. how?.

  seriously, i would like to tip my hat to those of you who entertain and educate me every day on this forum.

  i am grateful that you are willing to share what you know, unstintingly.

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  i would second that

  there are a good number here who i wish at times i had the wisdom of, the wit of, the memory of, the scholastic ability of and the heart of.

  it is no exacgeration to say that a good many of us regular punters owe a great debt of gratitude to others.

  A doff of my hat to you all.

  oz
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  Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

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  I believe we will see and hear more and more recorded JC (at least until the elders do strip searches at the behest of the GB)

  the crux will always be ''Do you believe that jehovah is using the GB/FDS as his true spokesman''

  if both parties stopped dancing around what both parties KNOW will be the crux, they will last all of 2 minutes...

  Not ever having had that sort of JC, i find these, although facinating, to be tad embarressing for the elders and the accused. The accused will try to prove a point that they already know will make no difference, the elders try to look interested in the views but they are not in the slightest. They need to boil it down to the nitty griity asap as well.

  By the time the JC took place the kid had 80 youtubes up...pretty obvious where he stood

  I mean no disrespect to those who have to go through a JC for finding the truth about the truth...

  oz
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  Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

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  ''No recording, it's just what we do''.......''we're just men talking''...

  it doesn't take them very long to get to the real point...the faithful slave/god's organization and obedience to them

  oz